Another outlet is now echoing the same message about Dan Wilson’s future in Seattle: if the Mariners miss the playoffs, he probably won’t be back in 2027.
That view first surfaced from Bob Nightengale of USA Today, and Andy McCullough of The Athletic added to it on Thursday in a mailbag answer that tied Wilson’s outlook to the way Seattle has played. McCullough pointed to a team that “do not play a particularly crisp brand of baseball,” noting that nearly a quarter of the Mariners’ at-bats end in strikeouts, while they sit 27th in FanGraphs’ baserunning value metric and 30th in defensive value.
He also wrote, “The lack of fundamentals looks more problematic when the talent is underperforming. And that does reflect on the manager.
Which is why he probably won’t be the manager next season.”
The timing makes the discussion even sharper. Seattle entered play on Sept. 3 at 66-74 and five games behind in its own division, in a year where the American League West has been historically poor.
In that setting, missing the playoffs would land as a massive disappointment. Even if the Mariners do sneak in, the mood around the season still wouldn’t exactly turn celebratory - it would simply mean more baseball to watch.
There’s also a broader argument here about how much blame belongs to Wilson. One view holds that he shouldn’t be judged too harshly for every rough patch because the season has been hit by injuries and regression.
Cal Raleigh, JP Crawford, Matt Brash, Gabe Speier, Brendan Donovan, Randy Arozarena, Julio Rodriguez, Bryce Miller, Cooper Criswell and Carlos Vargas have all been part of that mix, with Brendan Donovan missing more than 90 games. The same point is made by comparing those absences to the impact injuries have had on the Blue Jays, who beat the Mariners in the ALCS, with Trey Yesavage, Shane Bieber, Jose Berrios, Bowden Francis, Anthony Santander, Daulton Varsho and Addison Barger all mentioned.
The case for patience has been consistent: Wilson went to the ALCS in his first full season as manager, and for a franchise with historically low success, that was enough to argue for a second full year. The belief behind that stance is simple - don’t make a final call until the full picture is in. If Seattle does move on after year two, that would be easier to understand, even if the manager himself still wouldn’t deserve all the blame.
There are also roster reasons to think the picture could look different later. Crawford’s struggles at shortstop helped drag down the defense, especially early, and he’s set to become a free agent at the end of the year.
Colt Emerson could help over a full season. Arozarena has also been described as a poorly regarded defender in left field and is headed for free agency as well.
Seattle may not automatically improve there, but there is room for change.
The same goes for the club’s lack of athleticism, which has shown up in those baserunning numbers. The Mariners could add players in the offseason who help in that area. Nothing about that is guaranteed, and Julio Rodriguez’s defensive regression is still part of the story, but the larger point remains: Wilson didn’t build this roster, and he’s not responsible for everything that has gone wrong with it.
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