The best Dylan Larkin trade for the Red Wings may not come from the 10 teams on his list alone. If Detroit wants to get the kind of return it actually needs, the answer could be the same kind of answer Colorado found with Matt Duchene: bring in a third team and reshape the whole deal.
That idea came back into focus Thursday after ESPN analyst Erik Johnson, who was with the Avalanche when Duchene wanted out, criticized Larkin during the ESPN+ broadcast of Detroit’s game in Florida. Johnson’s comments will grab attention, but the old trade he referenced is the part that matters most for the Red Wings.
Johnson didn’t hold back. “As a former player, I don’t like these guys abandoning their team midseason, mid-contract,” he said, adding that “this isn’t exclusive to Dylan Larkin,” according to Detroit Hockey Now’s Bob Duff.
He then pointed to Duchene’s exit from Colorado and noted that the Avalanche eventually came out ahead, as The Detroit News’ Ted Kulfan reported. That’s the real lesson for Detroit.
Colorado didn’t settle for the best offer from one team. Joe Sakic changed the structure of the deal.
Duchene had asked for a trade around Christmas 2016, according to NHL.com’s Dan Rosen, but the move didn’t happen until Nov. 5, 2017. “We’ve said all along that we wanted to be patient and wait for the right deal,” Sakic said that day, as NBC Sports reported.
The key was the third team. Ottawa wanted Duchene and was willing to send Kyle Turris back, but Turris didn’t fit Colorado’s situation. Nashville stepped in to take the veteran center, and the Avalanche ended up with Samuel Girard, Vladislav Kamenev, Shane Bowers, Andrew Hammond, and first-, second-, and third-round picks, as CBS Sports detailed.
The first-rounder was the big swing. Ottawa’s 2019 pick became fourth overall, and Colorado used it on Bowen Byram, according to NBC Sports’ review of the return. Byram and Girard were both part of the Avalanche team that won the 2022 Stanley Cup.
That’s why the Duchene deal is such a useful template for Detroit. Larkin’s 10-team list controls where he can be moved, but it doesn’t stop the Red Wings from adding another club to the transaction. A third team could absorb salary or send back a young player, giving Detroit more ways to get the kind of return it wants.
That matters because the list itself doesn’t offer many easy matches. Most of those teams would have a hard time fitting Larkin’s $8.7 million cap hit, as we showed when we broke down why the list has only two real fits. A third team opens the market without forcing Larkin to change his stance.
It could also solve the biggest issue with the best reported offer so far. Minnesota’s reported package is built around Danila Yurov and picks, while Detroit’s priority is a young NHL center, as we explained when that offer surfaced. If another club has the center Detroit wants and needs picks in return, the pieces could be rearranged into something far closer to the Red Wings’ target.
But Colorado’s win also comes with a warning. The Avalanche got lucky because Ottawa’s pick turned into a top-five selection. Picks from a better team are a different story.
Minnesota entered Thursday leading the Central Division. If the Wild add Larkin, they get better right away, which would likely push their future picks deeper into the first round. Detroit can’t treat those selections like they might become another Byram.
Wild general manager Bill Guerin hasn’t revealed much, either. He told WCCO Radio that “nobody knows what I’ve offered, except Detroit,” according to NHL.com’s Nicholas J. Cotsonika.
There are differences between the two situations, of course. Duchene kept playing while Colorado shopped him. Larkin left the team on Oct. 29 and has been suspended without pay since, so any interested club is evaluating a center who hasn’t played in more than two weeks.
The personal side is different, too. Duchene was never Colorado’s captain.
Larkin grew up in Michigan and wore the “C” in Detroit until September. As we wrote earlier this week, that has made this mess feel more personal and harder to cleanly unwind.
Detroit’s urgency is only growing. The Red Wings blew a 4-1 lead in a 5-4 loss to the Panthers on Thursday, their fifth straight defeat, as Florida Hockey Now’s game recap detailed. They’re now 7-10-3.
Colorado’s lesson wasn’t to sit still and hope for the best. It found a way to turn one team’s veteran into another team’s future pieces. Detroit doesn’t need to copy the Duchene trade exactly, but it should absolutely borrow the method: widen the field, find a third team, and judge the picks by who’s handing them over.
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